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Gerard Tee
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RM 1.0 or below likely
cheng
or back to 1.80 post price fixing
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Gerard Tee
it's low but not that low yet
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cheng
observing what the boss wants to do / his subsequent capital allocation moves. His complicated corporate structure makes it difficult to dig further details unless he discloses them in the official reports.
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Vin Vin
hope genting remove right issue .haha
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cheng
unlikely, Vin. its interest free and it makes the balance sheet of Gent looks really good; assuming the official reason for the rights issue is for debt repayment :) if you look at the details in the annual report and at the company's level instead of consolidated level, Gent's borrowings increased by 3mil to ~6mil due to GenM's acquisition and of the 6mil, approx 2.2bil due by mid of 2027 followed by 450mil by Dec'27, 600mil by Dec'28. It has cash of ~1.2bil on hands now while Gent is generating avg 600mil to 700mil yearly pat. Last year pat dropped to 280mil and impairment shot up to ~490mil. A big chunk of the impairment seems to be coming from DNAe + some from RWLV probably. Gent's main income came from mgmt & licensing fees ~700mil per year and dividend income from its subsidiaries ranging from 500mil to 650mil per year; last year dividend income dropped to ~450mil. Basically, annual PAT will be able to cover the MTNs if you will and the statement from the mgmt that there will be no cash call anymore. I am more concerned on capital misallocation (other new investments) while RWS and RWLV are recovering and RWNYC ramping up.
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cheng
August 15, 2026 : DNAe Company Statement
The company is undertaking a significant restructuring following a review of its funding requirements and strategic priorities. As part of this process, we are currently substantially reducing our workforce and reducing operational activities at our UK and US facilities for now.
These decisions are very difficult and do not reflect the commitment, talent or contributions of our employees. We are extremely grateful for their outstanding work and are committed to supporting affected colleagues through this transition. The company is focused on preserving and maximising the value of its proprietary technology platform, intellectual property portfolio and other assets while evaluating strategic options for the future. We will not be commenting further on specific workforce matters or confidential business discussions. https://www.dnae.com/news-posts/dnae-company-statement/
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cheng
Possible some amount of impairment exercise carried out in 2023 and 2024 for DNAe as well. And hopefully no more impairment surprises from DNAe after the recent announcement of restructuring :)
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Vin Vin
hope lkt buy more genting shares in this few weeks
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cheng
he is will continue to buy, Vin. 2% translates to approx myr100mil at the avg of 1.40 per share and the amount is relatively small compared to the 560mil that the boss has committed for the rights issue.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, it’s very fishy that Genting chose to do RI instead of refinancing the borrowings. After all, the debt repayment amount is only 800M, which could be easily refinance.
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仙 黄大
跌出100大市值 拭目以待 0.9就不是100大市值了 1块 就会有资本家收购他公司了
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cheng
the official reason is debt repayment, daniel :) and if you were to look at the list of MTNs in the annual report, there is one MTN by Genting Capital issued back in 2012 for 1.5bil will be maturing/expiring in Jun 2027; part of the 2.2bil MTNs maturing by Jun'27 that I mentioned above. The reality is the boss is buying the dip.
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Lim Lay Kian
why lkt never open his mouth to say deduct own self and sons salary and benefit in kind ? As a CEO of the company , produce such a screw up result for the groups . Never realize he has done such a screw up job for the GB.
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cheng
I would prefer for lkt to clean up his empire's complicated structure with layers of holding companies :(
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cheng
CEO Ah Tan is busy buying the dip too
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cheng
such progress/development will not make it to the main stream media due to the complicated structure of Genting Berhad under LKT's leadership - https://www.cortechs.ai/cortechs-ai-and-carpl-ai-partner-to-expand-global-access-to-ai-powered-imaging-solutions/
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cheng
Lets see whether any announcement by the UK MHRA during the week of 29th Oct, 26th Nov and 17th Dec for HMTM's marketing authorisation approval. These are the last 3 sessions for CHM in 2026.
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Vin Vin
1.41 even taurx approve.. I believe alot investor still huge loss .. haha
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cheng
thats true, Vin. Unless HMTM goes global beyond UK. TauRx's strategy seems to start with UK approval first and then followed by other markets.
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Vin Vin
Gent price drop more than 50% within 1 year...quite terrible
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cheng
Thanks to the boss, Vin. Indirectly squeezing shareholders out. I dare not even add till today until q3 results is out.
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Vin Vin
At this moment....maybe Warren Buffett golden worlds will help ? be greedy when others are fearful!! :)
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cheng
logically yes as it is backed by physical resorts, list of properties valued at ~47bil and the potential for growth/generating revenue from these assets, Vin. However, revenue and profit are moving the opposite direction. Revenue goes up, profit goes down. Cost is creeping up and higher revenue came from low margin business (empire resorts consolidation and UK) while RWS, RWLV in recovery mode and RWNYC ramping up (hold rates for table games looking good though; consistently at the top range of high tens). The only positive side for now is that ebitda margin from the core assets are not falling. One announcement of rights issue before approval is sufficient to send it 25% lower. Safer to see results first before being greedy :)
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, I think RWLV has a lot of potential to grow further. Margin has improved for the past 2 consecutive quarters to 20%+. A growth in revenue will send the EBITDA flying.
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cheng
Noted, Daniel. Let's wait for q3 results to be released; the holiday season.
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Vin Vin
If this Qe still below 100m...or loss...
really can close file ady... since the RwNy GGR Keep maintain during this Q3... no more excuses lol
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cheng
That's right, Vin.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Vin, one RWLV loss can actually wipe out all the gains from other divisions. That’s because RWLV is 100% owned by GB, but others that make money are just 50-75% owned. So, if RWLV performs, it will lift up the group profit tremendously.
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Vin Vin
Daniel...just my2cent ..if rwlv really successful...
no need wait until 2026... still huge loss ...
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Vin, something really bad happened during 2024/25. It affects the entire operation. After the new chief came in, things seem to get much better now. We can get more confirmation in Q3&4.
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cheng
I can only hope for 0.80 to avg down to 1.4 :) else, will just subscribe to the rights without additional capital.
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Vin Vin
Seriously.. we need to accept defeated... If a strong company especially top30 ... It won't plunge like no tomorrow... But genting is the only one...
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cheng
imagine the frustration of those holding since before Covid to now, Vin.
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cheng
mr market tempting 30% discount from the price of announcement day :) will skip it still until the exdate / q3 results; whichever that is earlier.
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PANORAMA
High global crude oil price (adverse impact on business and spending power), Prolonged Haze (adverse effect on tourism, travelling & business), & increasing global borrowings yield % (challenging for highly indebted company to raise working capital funds and expensive financing). Perfect storm due to timing of rights issue.
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仙 黄大
谁买在4块的出来
他们说3块已经很低了
头行说2块
操他吗的 谁来告诉我
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Man Han
这个股好像titanic, 连大机构都丢了,叫我们这些Ikan bilis如何推高股价,没希望了,明天要爆跌了
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Vin Vin
right issue 1.30
current price 1.35
谁还要subscribe RI ?
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cheng
the boss made it clear that it will be 25% to 30% discount to TERP on a full subscription basis. excess rights will be taken up and company will get the 1.25bil intended from the rights issue. Having said that, it is unlikely for the market price to move higher now as that implies higher rights price. Will have to wait until ex-date for short term traders to return :)
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Man Han
叫老板买完100%咯。让它自己玩。
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cheng
my plan is still the same, Vin. Sell the rights to raise fund to subscribe; not gonna add capital to subscribe :) If q3 results meeting expectation, will add some after ex date. Else, will exit.
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Man Han
天天在这边听Vin vin和cheng吹水讲到很高深,然后又天天看rhb 妹妹和uncle笑我们,然后又看到tan每天说2.50, 1.50,1.00 all in.. 然后天天看它股价跌,真是人生一大衰事啊。。神啊,救救我吧
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Vin Vin
Cheng , can't believe Gent share price keep fall seem like genting going to closed soon...
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PANORAMA
Q3 will not be good. Otherwise, share price will not be at current level. I heard from friends that GenS VIP very quiet despite October China Golden Week & F1.
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cheng
That's how powerful the boss is, Vin. Look at GenM's price now versus his offer of 2.35. Boss will say he has no control over market force. One rights issue announcement and that is sufficient to offer boss 30% discount to announcement day price.
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Ricardo Siau
Wonderful real-life case study for MBA students
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Tteffub Nerraw
Cheng..conspiracy theories lagi kah? Wake up!!! This is not value investing lah!!! Come on bro ..no pun intended
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cheng
Can update the data and publish updated findings :) the impact of 25%-30% discount to TERP. https://www.mfa.com.my/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/vol-9-2001-p1-p20.pdf
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Eddy Khoo
wow, after 4pm and it just drops. something brewing again? raising another RI for another rm1.5 bil? squeeze both GenM and Gent to penny stocks before offering to take over again.
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Eddy Khoo
still no announcement on boss margin call and forced sale like what happened to zetrix?
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Sean Ong
T8 force selling and Margin call. Expected.
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来都来了
reset to 0.....
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PANORAMA
Extreme and sudden movement (continuous selling pressure) after 4pm today and it dipped to low of 1.31. Let’s see tomorrow.
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cheng
Retail force selling?
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PANORAMA
Possibly retail forced selling. Substantial shareholders will not face margin call pressure since only ~ 30% are pledged shares and still have high % of non pledged shares.
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cheng
Lol, Eddy. LKT needs to park the expenses into dev costs and amortise it over 100 years. Confirm profits will be nice on paper. I am just joking as that's a red flag if LKT is doing that.
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Eddy Khoo
the RI won't be feasible if the price fixing is too low as more shares need to be distributed and dilute the eps further.
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PANORAMA
The RI cannot be cancelled now as the consequences will be drastic. Rating agencies will down grade Genting lowest investment grade status further in the event of such reversal.
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cheng
NEW YORK, Oct. 22, 2026 /PRNewswire/ -- Resorts World New York City (RWNYC) today announced the opening of its new International Room, an exclusive, high-limit gaming destination bringing an elevated level of luxury, privacy and personalized hospitality to Queens. Unveiled alongside Queens native and hip-hop icon Nas, the opening marks a significant milestone in RWNYC's continued evolution as a premier New York City entertainment destination and comes as the property celebrates its 15th anniversary.
The International Room introduces a more intimate, premium gaming experience designed for guests seeking the privacy and white glove service traditionally associated with the world's leading luxury casino destinations. The approximately 13,657 square foot space features 48 table games and three private gaming salons, featuring high-limit baccarat, roulette and blackjack. As part of the experience, guests can enjoy dedicated hosted service, elevated beverage offerings and 24-hour access to hot and cold dining options without leaving the gaming floor. The private salons can be reserved to offer an added level of personalized service tailored to individual preferences, with enhanced entertainment offerings such as karaoke.
"The International Room is a major milestone in the evolution of Resorts World New York City, representing another important step toward realizing our vision of a world-class integrated resort right here in Queens," said Meghan Taylor, SVP Government Affairs and Public Relations. "Until today, players who wanted this level of service had to leave the city to find it. Now we can offer the personal, high-touch hospitality guests expect in other destinations, which raises the bar for what's possible in New York City. Every milestone brings us closer to delivering the full vision of for Resorts World, with more reasons for visitors to come, stay longer and return."
The opening is part of a broader expansion of Resorts World NYC's first floor with 57 additional table games and 147 additional slot machines coming online for a total of nearly 300 live table games and over 4,000 slot machines on the property. Together, these enhancements reflect the property's commitment to expanding its entertainment and hospitality experiences while attracting a new generation of luxury gaming customers.

The International Room's debut also carries special significance as Resorts World NYC celebrates 15 years in Southeast Queens. Since opening in 2011, the property has grown into a major destination for gaming, dining, entertainment and hospitality, welcoming millions of guests annually, while supporting the surrounding community and New York State's economy.
Queens native Nas joined the October 22 unveiling, underscoring the property's deep connection to the borough and its growing presence at the intersection of entertainment, culture and luxury.
Today's celebration comes fewer than seven months since RWNYC opened as The Big Apple's first and only full-fledged casino. That was followed in July with the company's breaking ground on Phase II of the $5.5 billion integrated resort that will eventually house a 7,000-seat arena, dozens of bars and restaurants, 2,000 hotel rooms, 11 acres of greenspace and much more.
"We are extremely proud of the speed with which we have built and opened this incredible space that offers a new and uplifted experience to our players," said Robert DeSalvio, President of Development, Genting Americas East. "Giving players and visitors what they want, as soon as possible, is priority number one for the company, and we look forward to many events like today's in the near future."
The International Room represents another step toward Resorts World NYC's broader vision of a fully integrated resort destination, combining premium gaming with upscale accommodations, dining, nightlife and entertainment. As the property enters its next chapter, the new space reinforces its ambition to bring world-class experiences to Queens and further establish the borough as a destination for New Yorkers and visitors alike.
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Gerard Tee
after moon taking over price shed even lower ?
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PANORAMA
ALL IN USA ! What will be the ROI based on huge debts required for the expansion ?
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cheng
The boss can proudly inform the shareholders that he has offered a good price of 2.35 despite independent advisor saying not fair and not reasonable, Gerard :)
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馬拉ck
即將反轉局勢了...
900年清水祖师圣像首莅马 安奉云顶清水岩庙7天
老闆請了神明來
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cheng
the boss will list in the US eventually, panorama :) just a matter of what and how he is going to do it and whether will he reward the shareholders directly through dividend in specie or indirectly via unlocking the value of US assets and paring down Gent's consolidated debt.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Price is what we paid, but value is what we get. 2 pieces of Miami Land already worth > RM10B
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Richard Tan
不问苍生问鬼神,这种老板好都有限。
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cheng
As Is - US assets (RWLV, RWNYC, Catskills, Hudson Valley, Bimini Resorts) are parked at Gent and GenM's holding companies; layers within Gent's structure. Listing of US assets separately will unlock the value as it will be valued against US peers, US gaming index funds participation, clearer reporting/transparency instead of having to find information from other sources :)
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cheng
I doubt the boss will opt for dividend in specie if it happens. most likely indirect benefits to shareholders :)
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PANORAMA
@ Cheng That is their plan (similar to LVS, Wynn, MGM, Caesars & Boyd etc.) after being stuck with Empire Inc and all the recent corporate exercises. Timing and execution need to be perfect based on recent years competition and gaming industry downturn though.
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cheng
book value of the physical assets/list of properties in Gent's annual report 2025 is ~myr47bil, daniel. The boss has all the resources and taking his own sweet time.
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馬拉ck
風水很重要的..你去看幾時發生林老墳墓被撞事件, 撞了後就股價跌到現在
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cheng
layers of holding companies if you will, panorama. RWLV is inside Gent's holding company and GenM has RWNYC, Empire Resorts, Bimini, UK, and RWG - different markets reported under one company, conglomerate discount at 60%. Listing US assets is just a matter of time and RWNYC is a good growth story :)
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Cheng, there is possibility that they will just go ahead and list RWNYC first?
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cheng
RWNYC is about growth story and RWLV is about recovery, daniel. RWNYC growth story will be more attractive and RWLV asset can be "injected" to the US entity at the same time or later. Well, RWLV is trying to get the NBA Arena to be built on its empty land; basically earning the rental/lease of the land from the NBA groups and higher traffic footfall to its resorts - pre-season, home games, touring events, and etc.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
It will be a huge huge boost to RWLV if NBA arena is built in their compound.
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cheng
yup. my personal opinion is that the first step to US listing will be RWNYC and restructuring in GenM is necessary. It has to be done before the Bally's Bronx and Cohen's Metropolitan Park are ready; capitalising the first-mover advantage :) No idea on the what & how the boss will do it.
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Eddy Khoo
GenM is already in his hand. just imagine how many would give up and sell to him once he offered rm2.35 again in Dec (provided he is super generous). Even with rm1.66 (discount of 30% from the last offer price) most retailers would sell to him this time.
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cheng
the boss can also offer Gent shares in return instead of another cash offer :)
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
I don’t think minorities are stupid to accept anything lesser than first offer. After all, Genting needs dividends from GenM to sustain their operations and dividends payout. Minorities just need to hold on to their shares to enjoy the high dividend yield.
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cheng
another thing to observe is holding companies movement but kinda tedious. RWNYC license holder is Genting New York LLC (GENNY) and Empire Resorts is under Genting Empire Resorts LLC (GERL); complicated layers of holding companies :) If the boss is submitting approval to New York Gaming Commission for approval to transfer/move GERL under GENNY, then, we will know he is moving towards US listing.
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Eddy Khoo
Daniel, in share market if everyone is cool head and trade on logic and rationale, we won't see such high volatile of up and downs. the fact is majority trade with emotions, greed and fear, and that s why the market have ups and downs.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Therefore it’s important to let more people know that Genting needs the money(dividend) from GenM to continue their operation. LKT can do whatever stunt he likes to GenM, but end of the day, GenM still got to pay good dividends to Genting. When dividends are good, share price will automatically goes up.
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Eddy Khoo
don't forget majority of US assets and business operation n capex are parked in GenM. Don't expect much dividends or probably no dividends for years to come from GenM.
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cheng
just look at the historical income statement/balance sheet in the annual report at company's level will do. its there - how Gent generates its revenue (mgmt fees and dividend income) and the details of the borrowings (MTNs and maturity). consolidated details are in there as well including list of properties and its book value.
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
If Genting Berhad can withstand no dividend, I believe it's ok for minority too :D
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Furthermore, Genting now owns almost 74% of GenM. Who do you think desperate for the dividend more? Minority or Genting? :D
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Eddy Khoo
the priority now is to pare down debts and raise fresh capital for the New York casino and development. now remain on how they gonna do it. I don't think dividend is their immediate concern
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Lim Ka Keat Daniel
Rest assured that there is zero problems for GenM to raise fresh capital for RWNYC expansion. Just for your information, GenM just gotten $500M refinancing facility with Miami Omni centre.
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Richard Tan
bla bla bla, so many snake oil sellers here.
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cheng
the funding for RWNYC is mentioned in GenM's Q2 report - Changes in Debt and Equity Securities
(1) As previously reported in the quarter ended 31 March 2026, Genting New York LLC (“GENNY”), an indirect wholly-owned subsidiary of the Company drawn USD755.0 million (equivalent to RM3,055.5 million) from its Senior Secured Credit Facility to fund the commercial casino licence fee and capital expenditure of Resorts World New York City (“RWNYC”).
(2) In June 2026, Genting Americas Inc. (“GAI”) entered into a new USD2.0 billion Secured Credit Facility, to:
(i) refinance the existing indebtedness of GENNY under the Senior Secured Credit Facility mentioned in (1) above;
(ii) redeem the USD300.0 million 7.75% Senior Secured Notes due 1 November 2026 of Empire Resorts,
Inc. (“Empire”); and
(iii) support the development and operation of a commercial casino at RWNYC.
GAI and Empire are indirect wholly-owned subsidiaries of the Company.
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Tteffub Nerraw
People think Cheng is a genius, but to me, this guy is more like a snake oil salesman lah! No matter what happens, he always has an explanation ready. His predictions can never be wrong because he keeps changing his story to fit the situation! When the sun comes out, he says the temperature is rising and something big is coming! When it suddenly rains, he says the rain is starting to slow down and things are improving! When the rain gets even heavier, he tells everyone not to panic because sunny days are just around the corner! When the whole place floods, suddenly there’s a deeper meaning that only his followers can understand!Walaooo!

No matter whether it’s sunny, rainy, stormy or flooding, Cheng can always come up with another story to convince his followers that he knows exactly what’s going on!That’s the beauty of snake oil, mah! You don’t need to prove your predictions were right. You just need to sound convincing enough for people to believe you! If the sun comes out, he takes credit. If it rains, he says you misunderstood him. If a typhoon hits, suddenly there’s a bigger picture that ordinary people cannot understand! Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the greatest show on earth! MASTER CHENG, THE SNAKE OIL SALESMAN
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cheng
DNAe going through restructuring while Nasdaq listed Celularity regained Nasdaq compliance - FLORHAM PARK, N.J., Oct. 22, 2026 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Celularity Inc. (Nasdaq: CELU) ("Celularity"), a longevity-focused regenerative and cellular medicine company, today announced that it received written confirmation from the Listing Qualifications Staff of The Nasdaq Stock Market LLC ("Nasdaq") that Celularity has regained compliance with Nasdaq Listing Rule 5250(c)(1), which requires timely filing of periodic financial reports with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Nasdaq's determination follows Celularity's October 20, 2026 filing of its Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the period ended June 30, 2026. Nasdaq confirmed that the reporting deficiency matter is now closed. Revenue was $5.43M for 2Q 2026, down from $5.74M in 2Q 2025 ( (5.3%)).
Net income attributable to common shareholders was $0.55M for 2Q 2026, versus a loss of $24.52M in 2Q 2025 (turnaround YoY).
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